Hacking ethics

It’s true that sometimes, I can get tempted to do something illegal
Then I remember I can do the same the legal way :)

You can do pretty much everything in a legal way

I didn’t want to go in the dark side… but they have cookies…

@Trashy**: Some people have morals, others believe in or fear the legal system.

@Mugiwara27**: You can’t do something illegal legally, right? ;)

What is “legal” is not necessarily what is right.“
Holding on to this concept that the law defines "right” and “wrong” is not only demonstrative of a lack of critical thinking, it is also very dangerous. One only has to take even a brief glance at the history books to see numerous accounts of that kind of thinking being exploited with horrible results.
Hitler;s death camps were “legal.”
Slavery in the US was “legal.”
And now in the US police brutality is at an all time high, and several states are looking to pass laws that make filming officers “illegal.”
People need to evolve past the point of accepting someone else’s arbitrary morality.

@dloser: Didn’t see the answer oops. And yes, you and I and everyone can turn something illegal in legal. I’m pretty sure you know it :)

@R4kk00n: Sad reality that law is not really defined by what’s good. But I can’t really say that since “good/bad” & “right/wrong” is different from one person to another. Oh and I fully agree with your last sentence.

@Mugiwara27**: If you turn it into something legal, then you are not doing something illegal but something that would be illegal if done in another way.

@R4kk00n**: Why that rant?

:)

(B.t.w., the answer is ‘yes’, but it doesn’t stop being illegal. The true question is if you can do it. :p)

So in fact, I’m doing something legal, illegally ?
mind-blow

Wasn’t really a rant. If I were ranting, it would be much longer. I can be quite verbose.

I just think it is sad that people get morally outraged by the breaking of laws that are there solely to protect profit, while pretty much ignoring the things that are done that actually affect people’s ability to live.

Perhaps I am coming from a vastly different place than most on this board.
I am not middle or upper middle class, I grew up pretty poor. Was raised by a meth addict and spent a couple years in foster care. Was homeless for about 4 years as an adult, so seen people hit really hard by poverty, and pretty much discarded by society. So when I see someone talk about things like piracy or intellectual property theft like it is horrendous thing I guess I just don’t feel terribly sympathetic.
Seems to me there is a lot more significant things to worry about and be offended by.

And all this is relevant to this thread how exactly?

It is a thread on ethics, what people view as “right” and “wrong” are part of that.

As you posted:
“Some people have morals, others believe in or fear the legal system.”

My first post, or “rant” as you referred to it was dealing with the tendency of many people to equate “legal” with “moral.”

In my latter post I was expressing my view that when people are outraged over things like piracy and illegal entry into computer systems, yet are pretty much ok with being part of a society where human beings can be discarded and treated as garbage, or as resources to profit from, there is an issue with priorities.

Unless of course the only “relevant” opinions on ethics are those of a select few users on this forum, in which case, I guess my post was pretty irrelevant.

Perhaps I was mistaken in assuming that this was a discussion forum (as “discussion” involves the free exchange of ideas by more than one party)

The reason I don’t see how your posts are relevant is because they do not seem to be related to the posed question or other replies. It appears you only focused on the thread title.

You are more than welcome to discuss these thing on this forum. All I’m saying is that I don’t see how the discussion you are trying to have belongs in this specific thread.