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Hazique35
11 years ago

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Hello, I have some questions. 1: Whats the difference between hacking and cracking? 2: What is a good scripting language to learn? (Learning C++ at the moment, anything that goes well with that?) 3: Can C++ be really used to hack? Ive heard that it can, but I think it would be very complicated.

Thanks!

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???Roun512 [roun512]
11 years ago
J [ColdIV]
11 years ago

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C++ is always good and you will understand most of the other languages if you know C++. I don’t think that HTML and C++ fit together that good.. I’d use PHP with HTML. (Don’t like CGI…)

Hazique35
11 years ago

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HTML is simple so Im not having problems with that.

Thanks guys!

???Roun512 [roun512]
11 years ago

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then go to PHP and do u know javascript ?

Hazique35
11 years ago | edited 11 years ago

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Ok, ill try PHP. Dont know javascript, but I could learn it on the side. Are PHP and Javascript the same? Sorry, im only familiar with C++.

EDIT: Oh ya, Ive gotten through 6 exercises, (almost about to finish 7!) but I was wondering, how good are the methods used here? Could they be used on real sites. I would imagine that other sites have a much greater defense in their source code.

[deleted user]
11 years ago

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@ Hazique35
go to this website http://www.w3schools.com/ it will help u alot learning PHP n javascript or u can google it

???Roun512 [roun512]
11 years ago

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yes it will help

Hazique35
11 years ago

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Thanks for the link

Hazique35
11 years ago

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OK… I downloaded the source code from this URL: http://www.php.net/downloads.php . (chose the first one and then chose United Kingdom) And Ive got a whole bunch of files when WinRar extracted everything. Theres a folder for: build, ext, main, netware… What do I do? This is a lot morre complicated then downloading Visual C++ 2010 Express.

[deleted user]
11 years ago

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@Hazique35
dude i have no idea what ur doin but if ur trying to learn php n its not helping i think u must go here :
http://thenewboston.org/list.php?cat=11
he’s best at what he do…

Abhijeet [abhi1302]
11 years ago

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1) no difference depends on us only how we wanna look at it. for me hacking is ultimate tool which i can use to crack things, even cracking is a sort of hacking.

2) most servers runs on php/asp/jsp and if u know some bugs in there design u can exploit it but i will suggest u to start with javascript which is client side scripts. C++ is not a scripting language u can think of it as a language which has the potential to give birth to new era of languages like php is written in C.

3) the major challenge i am facing now is with computation power. yes i can use brute force but its not a good idea but sometime that is the only way left and to generate all combination and u will chose some higher computing machine and may prefer C over java here. i think u should be looking for ASSEMBLY language with which you can do some tricky things which most of the software viruses does :)

[deleted user]
11 years ago

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@abhi1302
u make allot of thing clear here but don’t u thing leaning assembly early could b complicated its batter to start from basics…

Hazique35
11 years ago

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Ive downloaded Assembly, and Im learning it now. I understand basics of things like arithmetic operators, I just need to understand how to compile and run what I have typed. Its not very hard learning this after learning quite a bit of C++. Im determined to learn it because when I downloaded it, there were some sample programs and one of them asked me if I needed extra space for a beer, then it opened the CD drive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It was the coolest thing ever!!!!

[deleted user]
11 years ago

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WOW
i find Assembly difficult cuz i never give it a shoot :P
i will after my exams

Abhijeet [abhi1302]
11 years ago

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@Hazique35: is it possible to share with me and bilal95 all the links are materials that you are following to master ASSEMBLY? my EMAIL id is abhijeet.nitb@gmail.com
@bilal95: High level language (C/C++/Java) are meant to hide away the basics from the programmer and assigning those task to the compiler. it is the low level language(ASSEMBLY) that i going to give u the ultimate flexibility. knowing High level language is a good think but for tricky things Assembly is the only choice.

[deleted user]
11 years ago

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@abhi1302
yeah read about them in school high level languages, low level languages……
so u got any videos tutorials or some website where i can start learning Assembly

Abhijeet [abhi1302]
11 years ago

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no i don’t have that’s why i was checking with @Hazique35 i think he can help you

[deleted user]
11 years ago

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@ abhi1302
okay i guess i have to spend some time finding it…

HappyPants
11 years ago

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I found for learning Assembly language the best site is securitytube.net It is an awesome site for security professionals, I have been learning the assembly language videos as they have both Linux and Windows, i have yet to completely comprehend it, but with determination anyone can learn. Its not easy but I feel if you learn assembly language there are no limits to what can be achieved. Hope this sit ehelps

[deleted user]
11 years ago

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@HappyPants
thnx man i’ll check it out…

Hazique35
11 years ago

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Sorry guys for taking so long to reply. When I downloaded everything, there was some tutorial, but it was all text and I dont think its that good. (it takes too long to explain simple stuff) Ya, I dont have a good tutorial. So ASSEMBLY is low level. Why isnt it the top voted language??? It can make the CD drive open so you have extra space for a beer!!!! How does that not get you in the top 10. (or maybe some other languages can do that but I have never seen a program that does that…)

[deleted user]
11 years ago

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@Hazique35
as u already know that Assembly language is different for all OS like Windows Linux/Unix that is why i think they call it low level language if u learned it in windows u can’t us it in Linux or any other OS but other Programing languages like C/C++ VB Java they r kind of portable, u don’t have to worry with OS is it syntax will always b the same…
they might not give u more flexibility but u just need to learn them once and for all then just keep ur self up-to-date….
if i missed some thing just post it to make things more clear.

( if i said something wrong plzz let me know :) )

Hazique35
11 years ago

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Ive always been told that C++ is a low level language. Is ASSEMBLY really low then? Also, languages like C++ are sometmes used to make new languages, so what was C++ programmed in? What was ASSEMBLY programmed in?

[deleted user]
11 years ago

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never researched it that deep, just google it if u wanna know. n C++ is used to make Applications n programs don’t know if some ppl use it to creat new programing languages…

Hazique35
11 years ago

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Actually… Ive decided to go with Lua as my scripting language. sorry abhi1302. The opening CD drive gets old after while.

Pawda [Memoria]
11 years ago

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Welcome Hazique35 ! just wanted to point out that
2: HTML is not a programming language. For scripting you may prefer python, perl, lisp, powershell on windows (lol) or sh on unix system.
3: well, it’s depends what do you want hack but for website mostly I doubt it’s worthy to learn in priority.

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